Wednesday, December 06, 2006

NOTES ON PARSHAS VAYISHLACH

Vayishlach = And He Sent. Psukim 32:4 through 36:43. Eighth parsha in Seifer Bereishis.


This is one heck of a busy text, tayere Rabbosai, with lots of action, and more goys than you can shake a stick at. Quite exciting.
We find out about struggling with the divine, struggling with kinfolk, and struggling with outsiders. And we see Yakov being stiff-necked in the first instance where he struggles for himself, pragmatic and determined in the second instance when taking precautions to ensure the survival of at least part of his household, and acquiescent in the third instance when for the benefit of all one of his people seems expendable .


The story so far, from the sixth and seventh aliya in Parshas Vayeitzei: Yakov is 97 years old and has been away from home for 34 years (14 at Shem ve Eyver, 20 in Charan), and wants to leave Lavan, for whom he has laboured so long. He and his family flee and Lavan catches up with them. Yakov, while confronting Lavan for his years of duplicity, unknowingly curses Rachel. Yakov and Lavan separate, and Yakov reaches the borders of Canaan.

Question: If Lavan is evil, is there no danger that his daughters will have inherited that characteristic?

Answer: The souls are from the mother. And in this case, the mother was a relative of Yakov to begin with.



MALACHIM

After dealing with Lavan, Yakov prepares for his encounter with Esav. When a number of angels come towards him, he tasks them to return to Seir and Edom (representing hostility and anger respectively, but note also that these two places are mentioned again together in Seifer Bamidbar (Numbers), Parshas Balak, psook 24:18, where Balaam prophesies their eventual conquest by a goodly tented Israel) and destroy these qualities, but he realizes while speaking that such traits are needed as they make it possible to learn humility, and instead asks them to beg Esav's favour

[The word malachim can mean both ‘messengers’ and ‘angels’. In "and Yakov sent malachim to Esav his brother", Rashi (*) reads the word to mean angels. Rashi obsesses much on the divine explanation.]


As Esav approaches, Yakov adopts a flexible strategy - gifts, prayer, and preparation for combat - put differently, hope for the best and prepare for the worst.

[This is like the sacrifice of two goats for Yom Kippur – one to Hashem, the other to Azazel. This scapegoat was to persuade the sitra achra to abstain from harming Israel in the coming year – and this is symbolically also an echo of mayim acharonim (last waters – cleaning one’s fingers after eating, before saying grace after meals), or portions designated for one of the baleful presences with which superstition is abundant.]



MAASEH AVOS SIMAN L' BANIM
[The acts of the fathers are an example to the sons]
Like Yakov, when faced with danger prepare with prayer, with gifts for assuaging, and with preparations for struggle, so also the struggles between Israel and her enemies, as illustrated repeatedly in Torah and Nach. But the approach is no less worthwhile today.


Psook 32:4 "Artzah Seir" = to the land (of ) Seir; Seir-wards.

Question: Why towards Seir?

Answer: Because that is where Esav was.

Question: Why not ‘le Seir’?

Answer: Rashi explains that everything which can be prefaced with a lamed (le = to, toward) can instead have a hey (= wards) after. This klal (rule) is noted earlier in the medrash, regarding Parshas Vayeitzei ("vayelech Charanah": and he went towards Charan).

So why does Rashi wait till this point to bring it up?

The answer is complicated, and somewhat unreal – per Rabbi Akiva (*), lamed is a remez (mental clue, allusion) for strength, because lamed is the largest of letters and thus the strongest. But Rashi tells us here ‘hey b’sofah’ (put a ‘hey’ at the end), explaining that ‘hey’ is a remez for teshuva ('tashuv-hey'), meaning repentance. The Hey is small and humble, which is what we become when we do Teshuva. One should not go into confrontations with strength, but with repentance. This formulation thus demonstrates how Yakov was preparing to confront Esav.



Yakov tells his messengers (angels, per Rashi!) to say to Esav, ". . .I lived with (my uncle) Lavan and I tarried there until now." (psook 32:5).

Regarding ‘I lived’ (garti) Rashi sees the gematria value of the number of mitzvos in the Torah (613), and gives a subtext of Yakov indicating to Esav that despite living with Lavan and his inequity for so long, he still kept the commandments – a remarkable interpretation, as the commandments were not given in full till Sinai. But Rashi and others assume, not entirely without reason, that the commandments were in fact inherent before then and voluntarily adhered to by the Patriarchs – and as the Torah itself was not given she biksav until Sinai, why should there not be such a clue written here from Yakov’s mouth?

But another way of looking at this is to note that garti is not in any way qualified – a life without anything added or subtracted is perfect, just as the Torah has naught added or subtracted. Had his residence in Charan been in any way questionable, qualifying adjectives and adverbs would have been employed rather than so plain a statement of the circumstance.



AFRAID AND DISTRESSED, ME'OD

Psook 32:8 "Vayira Yaakov meod vayetzer lo vayachatz et ha am asherito, ve et hatzon, ve et ha bakar, ve ha gmalim, lishnei machanot" (And then Yakov was exceedingly afraid and he was distressed; and he divided the people who were with him, and the flocks, and the herds, and the camels, into two camps).


Question: Why two words (afraid and distressed) to describe his feelings at that time?

Answer: He was afraid that he might be killed, and distressed that he might kill, according to the Midrash. And also, he feared his brother, and was distressed by the fact that he should fear him, because this is not a normal and proper way to feel about one’s sibling.


Psook 32:23 "…vayikach et shetei nashav ve et shetei shifchotav ve et achad asar yeladav" (...and he took his two wives, and his two handmaids, and his eleven sons).

Where was Dinah during this time? It is said that Yakov had locked her in a chest, lest Esau set his eyes on her. For this, Yakov was punished by Dinah falling into the hands of Shechem; if he not hidden her from his brother, she would perhaps have brought Esav back to the proper derech.

As Hashem says to Yakov later "You would not wed her to a circumcised person, behold, she is now possessed by an uncircumcised one. You would not give her in a legitimate marriage, behold, she is now seized illegitimately."

[This is probably the most disturbing idea in the parsha.]



GID HANASHE

Before meeting Esav, Yakov struggles with ‘a man’, in consequence of which the sciatic nerve (gid hanashe) gains a symbolic weight, and is henceforth no longer permitted to Yakov and his descendants.


Psook 32:24 "Vayevaser Yaakov levado, veyeiavek ish imo, ad alos ha shachar" ( Yakov was left alone, and he fought with a man until dawn).

Several commentators suggest that the man was Esav’s guardian angel, but elsewhere it is clear that this man was the manifestation or agent of Hashem, as it says "your name will no longer be called Yakov, but Israel will be your name".

When Yakov fought with the angel he had already moved his property and family across the river, but he went back by himself for some small vessels that he had forgotten, as it says "Yakov was left alone" -.


The Midrash in Breishis Rabba (77:1) echoes this verse with, "Vanisgav Adonai levado bayom hahu" (the Lord alone shall be exalted on that day", a quote from Yeshayahu 2:11 and 2:17.

[Yeshayahu psook 2:11 "Einei gavhut adam shafel veshach rum anashim venisgav Adonai levado bayom hahu" (the lofty looks of man shall be brought low, and the haughtiness of men shall be bowed, and the Lord alone shall be exalted on that day).
Psook 2:17 "Veshach gavhut ha adam veshafel rum anashim venisgav Adonai levado bayom hahu" (and the loftiness of man shall be bowed, and the haughtiness of men shall be brought down, and the Lord alone shall be exalted on that day).]


What connects these two psukim? The word "Levado" (alone). What does this mean in this context?

Yakov having received his father’s blessings (psook 27:29): "The nations will serve you, nations will bow down to you, you will be a master over your brother, your mother's sons will bow to you, those who curse you will be cursed, and those who bless you will be blessed", and was a powerful man with a large family and men at arms. Despite all this scope for loftiness or hauteur, when he goes to back across the Yabok he is alone - "Vayevaser Yaakov levado."

But it is also written in Tehilim 72:18 "Baruch Adonai Elohim oseh niflaos levado" (Blessed is Hashem our Lord, who does wondrous things alone).


Psook 32:26 "Vayar ki lo yachol lo vayiga bechaf-yerecho, vateka kaf-yerech Yaakov beheavko imo" (And when he saw that he did not prevail against him, he touched the hollow of his thigh).

According to the Ramban (*), Yakov's struggle with the angel represents the suffering of golus; when the angel injured Yakov's hip-socket this spiritually affected his descendants, signifying the Shmad (Roman brutality during their attempt to subdue Israel centuries later), which please note Yisroel survived also, like it is written: "And Yacob arrived, whole."

[We cannot eat the sciatic nerve? Hah, we never wanted to anyway – darn thing is too close to the you-know-what!]


As dawn breaks, the entity fighting Yakov tries to leave, but Yakov refuses to let him unless he blesses him and confirms that the blessing of the first born in actuality did belong to Yakov.

Why does Yakov demand this, and why should the word of a stranger count in that matter?

One explanation is that Yakov at this stage believes the entity to be daemonic and thus capable of insights that humans cannot have. Why should Yakov think this? Because river-spirits, which are what logically springs to mind in this context, given that Yakov crossed the river just before he was attacked, are active at night, and like the troll in the tale of the three billy goats, exact tribute or cause trouble for those crossing over.

[And note that at this stage Yakov has made a transition from one stage of his life to an entirely different one – such profound changes increase the likelihood of bad-luck or malignant influence; superstition holds that one is particularly at risk from the supernatural at such times.]


The divine being blessed him, saying "your name will no longer be called Yakov, but Israel will be your name", indicating that he will attain greatness because he strove with Hashem and won.

But he also keeps the name Yakov, which shows humility (Yakov comes from the word Eikev - the heel of the foot).

[Now note that from the time Hashem changed Avram's name, Avraham could no longer be called Avram – doing so would be in violation of a mitzvah. But with Yakov this is not the case. Why so? The tradition itself provides the answer – he is fairly consistently referred to subsequently by the name Yakov. Think of it as being a difference between a name and an appellation.]


YAKOV AND ESAV MEET

Psook 33:3 "vehu avar lifneihem vayishtachu artza sheva peamim ad-gishto ad-achiv" (And he himself [Jacob] went before them, and bowed himself to the ground seven times, until he came near to his brother).

[When Mordechai refused to bow to Haman, they said: "You will get us killed! How dare you go against the orders of the king?" Mordechai answered: "I am a Jew". They then asked: "Did not our forefathers bow to his (the king’s) forefather?" [Note that what is meant is that the king is a descendant of Esav.] Mordechai replied: "I am descendant of Benjamin, who was in his mother's womb at that time. Just as my ancestor did not bow, so I too shall neither kneel nor bow." ]

Psook 33:4 "Vayaratz Esav likrato vayechabkehu vayipol al-tzavarav vayishakehu vayivku" (And Esau ran to meet him, and embraced him, and fell on his neck, and kissed him, and they wept).
There is an interpretation that reads the mention 'and (Esav) fell on his neck' to mean that Esav tried to bite Yakov. Absurd! This psook follows immediately after Yakov rushes to humble himself before Esav. Clearly Esav in response feels an upwelling of brotherly love for Yakov, and, as it says, rushes forward weeping to embrace the brother whom he has not seen in years.

After 34 years of hatred, Yakov and Esav meet up, embrace, cry together, chew the fat, and then part ways again. Note that while Esav had initially refused the gifts, Yakov persisted.

Perhaps Esav genuinely did not feel worthy of gifts, perhaps Yakov genuinely didn’t trust his brother and by those gifts sought to commit Esav to peace. Or perhaps they were merely being maddeningly courteous – "no no I can’t" versus "but please I insist". Kinda like two Arabs fighting over who has the honour of paying for the coffee they enjoyed together.



YAKOV GOES TO SHECHEM, ESAV TO SEIR

Psook 33:18 "Vayavo Yaakov shalem ir shechem asher be eretz Kenaan bevo'o mi Padan Aram vayichan et penei ha ir" (And Yakov arrive secure at the city of Shechem, which is in the land of Canaan, when he came from Padan Aram and encamped in front of the city).

Secure in body - he was healed of his limp. Secure in wealth - he did not lack despite the gifts to Esau. And secure in Torah – had not forgotten anything that he had learned in Lavan’s house (or alternatively, he had not forgotten anything that he had learned, while spending so many years in exile).

[Shechem = Shoulder. Modernday Nablus, north of Jerusalem, on a spur of Mount Gerizim. Shalaim = Whole, complete, secure, in safety; from the same source as shalom.]

The Medrash in Bereishis Rabba explains that he arrived as daylight faded on erev Shabbes, and made himself an eruv techumin (the space in which one can move around in shabbes).


Psook 33:19 "Vayiken et chelkat ha sade asher natasham aholo mi yad Bnei Chamor, Avi Shechem, bemea kesita" (And he bought the piece of land on which he had spread his tent, from the hand of the children of Chamor, Shechem's father, for one hundred kesita).

[There are three places about which the nations of the world can never say to the Bnei Yisroel that they have stolen them: the Meures ha Machpelah (which Avraham bought from Efron the Hittite for the full price in silver), the site of the Beis Hamikdash (which Dovid HaMelech purchased with six hundred gold shekels), and Yosef’s kever, which Yakov here buys for one hundred kesitah. ]



RAPE, VENGEANCE, AND THIRTEEN YEAR OLD BOYS

Dinah is raped by Shechem the son of Chamor, and in vengeance, all the males of the city of Shechem get slaughtered by a pair of thirteen year old boys (Shimon and Levi).


Dinah is first mentioned as an afterthought to the excessive fertility of Leah, in psook 30:21 "ve achar yalda bat, va tikra et shema Dinah" (and afterwards she bore a girl, and called her Dinah).

Then, when she is pubescent (naara: an adolescent girl), we are told in Psook 34:1 "va tetze Dina bat-Lea asher yalda leYaakov lirot bivnot haaretz" (and Dinah the daughter of Leah, whom she had borne from Yakov, went out to see the daughters of the land).
Psook 34:2 "vayar ota Shechem Ben Chamor ha Chivi, nesi haaretz va yikach ota va yishkav ota va yeaneha" (and Shechem the son of the Chivite Chamor, a prince of the land, saw her, and he took her, and 'yishkav' with her, and humbled her).
Psook 34:3 "vatidbak nafsho bedina bat-Yaakov va yeehav et-ha naara va yedaber al-lev ha naara" (and his soul was drawn to Dinah the daughter of Yakov, and he loved the teenager, and spoke to the heart of the girl).

Shechem takes the girl by force. Even though he finds himself smitten by her afterwards, and speeks gently to her following his act, this does not erase the fact that he violated her.

Question: Not to indulge in a fit of blaming the victim, but is it nevertheless possible that Dina herself bore some responsibility for events?

Answer: That is not possible – what Shechem did is stated AFTER the verse explaining why Dinah went out. She went, her motive is stated clearly, and then Shechem saw her and acted - thus proving by his actions as a representative of his people how little trust could be reposed in Canaanites. He is a prince, but he acts like a criminal.

Following this he tries to throw money at the problem, likely with a sincere desire to marry the girl. But his motives must be doubted, like his character, because this is not an honest marriage proposal but an attempt to legitimize a conquest after the fact.


Psookim 34:14 – 16 " "vayomru aleihem lo nuchal la asot ha davar ha ze, latet et achoteinu le ish asher lo arla, ki cherpa hiv lanu" (We cannot do this thing, to give our sister to a man who is not circumcised, for it is a shame to us). "Ach be zot neot lachem im tihyu chamonu lehimol lachem kol zachar" (But this is how we can agree with you – if you will be like us, (and) circumcise every male among you), "venatanu et benoteinu lachem ve et benoteikhem nikachlanu ve yashavnu itchem ve hayinu le am echad" (then we will give our daughters to you, and we will (also) marry your daughters - we will settle with you and be one nation).

If Shechem with his father and all of the men will circumcise themselves, then the Yakov’s sons will agree to the marriage, and undertake to live with the people of the city as one nation.

Shechem, Chamor and the men of the city agreed and circumcised themselves.


Why did the other men of the city agree?

Because Shechem and Chamor spoke persuasively, and made mention of much cattle and wealth, which if they but circumcise themselves can be divorced from the clan of Yakov and will enrich those who are party to this deal. An incentive that the men of Shechem cannot resist! But note well that those who circumcised themselves because of this bargain thus marked themselves complicit in the rape.

[And it should also be noted that this circumcision did not indicate a covenant with Hashem, but rather a criminal conspiracy - the men of Shechem with their averice made a mockery of the meaning of circumcision.]


Three days later (yom ha shelishi), while the men of the city were still recovering, Shimon and Levi enter the city, slaughter the males, and rescue Dina.

Psook 34:25 "vayehi vayom ha shelishi bihyotam koavim vayikchu shenei vnei-Yaakov, Shimon ve Levi, achei Dina, ish charbo vayavou al ha ir betach vayahargu kol zachar" (Andso it happened on the third day, when they (the men of Shechem) were in pain, that two of the sons of Yakov, Shimon and Levi, Dinah's brothers, each man took his sword and came to the city in quiet, and slew all the men).

Psook 34:26 "ve et-Cha mor ve et-Shechem beno hargu lefi charev, vayikchu et Dina mi beit Shechem, vayetseiu" (And they slew Chamor and Shechem his son with the edge of the blade, and took Dinah out of Shechem's house, and left).


Question: Why are Simon and Levi called Dina’s brothers? Was she the sister of these two only, and not the sister of all Jacob's sons?

Answer: They are called by her brothers because they risked their lives for her sake. It is a convention that people are called after a significant marker or characteristic, like Yakov being also named Yisroel, Dinah earlier being called the daughter of Leah (because of characteristics they share), or, in our day, Edomite terrorists being Abu this-that-and the other.
But why do you ask this, oh Father-Of-Moustaches?


Each man his sword: Chazal reckon that the younger of the two, Levi, was thirteen years old at the time. The Torah refers to him as a man, because thirteen is the age at which one attains manhood and becomes a bar mitzvah.


Now note that the act which they committed does not to our mind speak of the daas (reason, intellect) implied in observing the commandments, but it does show an extreme sense of integrity and respect for their sister, and that they valued her greatly. And it is very gallant.


Psook 34:30 "Vayomer Yaakov el-Shimon ve el-Levi achartem oti lehavisheni beishev haaretz baKenaani u va Perizi, va ani metei mispar ve ne'esfu alai ve hikuni ve nishmadti ani uveiti" (and so Yakov spoke to Simeon and Levi "you have shamed me, to make me odious to the natives, even to the Canaanites and the Perizites, and as I have but few numbers, they will gather themselves together against me and whack me and I shall be destroyed, I and my house).

Yakov denounces their deed, fearing that this would set the locals against him and his family – but the two brothers argued that doing otherwise would have done more to damage the clan.

This passage makes clear that the sons of Yakov broke an agreement which their clan made with the inhabitants of Shechem. But is a bargain made while the other side holds a hostage in any way valid?

Conditions had been met, and by setting those conditions in the first place, it can be argued that the deal was, indeed, valid.

But, daveracher, it can also be argued that the violation of their sister was answered in kind, and that doing so had precedence over any deal – a bargain made to legitimize a rape, wherein the rapist is rewarded for his act, is perhaps very Arab, but by no means ethical.

Rejecting the proposal outright would have consigned their sister to the whims of Chamor and his son, who would have been unconstrained at that point by any sense of agreement. Accepting Shechem’s offer was a tactic that bought them time and permitted them to deal with the situation as required. Shimon and Levi could not tolerate their sister being treated as a harlot; circumcision of the Chivites would not change either the basic facts, or the base character of the Canaanites.

Yakov’s complaint is that they had made the bargain nil, broken the agreement and their word, shown bad faith in negotiating. Shimon and Levi hold that no possible bargain was acceptable, and by allowing so depraved a deal to stand, they would shame themselves before the people of the land, and endanger themselves by so doing, because it would demonstrate that they would not resist advantages being taken of them.

One other point – the fact that Yakov was willing to let his family mingle with the Chivites shows that at that time, the Hebrews were not yet ready to be separate among the nations. It is a presaging of the exile in Egypt, during which they will indeed become a nation themselves.

Note also that the spirit of solidarity which marks the actions of Shimon and Levi as regards their sister Dinah contrasts markedly with the divisiveness that we will see when Yosef ends up sold to Egypt. The consequence of that failure of achdus will be several generations of misery.


Yakov moves to Beis El, and Hashem names Yakov ‘Yisroel’.



BENYAMIN, BEIS-LECHEM... VE BAVEL?

6th & 7th Aliyot: Rachel dies while giving birth to Benyamin. Yakov buries her in Beis Lechem (Bethlehem), on the way to Efrat.

Regarding the Kever Rachel (Rachel's Tomb): Why did Yakov bury Rachel along the road?

It was foreshadowed that the exiles from Jerusalem would pass that way in Babylonian times, so he buried her where she could pray for mercy for them, as is written in Yeremiyahu 31:15 "So says Hashem, ‘A voice is heard in Ramah, lamentations and bitter tears, (it is) Rachel weeping for her children".


Yakov changes the name of this son from Ben Oni to Benyamin.

Question: What is the significance of the name Benyamin?

Answer: Benyamin means 'son of the South'. Benyamin is the only one of the twelve brothers to be born south of Padan Aram, and in the land of Canaan. But alternatively, yamin also hints at oaths and trust, and note that Yakov changes his name to Benyamin when Rachel dies, when all he has left is this son as a surety between him and his wife.

Yitzchak will live another 21 years and die at the age of 180.



BILHAH'S BED

Reuven, Yakov’s eldest son and Leah’s first-born, full brother to Shimon, Levi, and Yehudah, half-brother to the rest of the gang, commits a problematic situation with Bilha, his father's concubine, who who is the mother of Dan and Naftali, his half brothers. Following Rachel's death, Reuven switches the bed of Yakov from Bilha's tent to Leah's tent, and then gets mightily confused – a situation that almost begs for liquor as an explanation.

Psook 35:22 "vayehi bishkon Yisrael ba aretz hahiv vayelech Reuven vayishkav et-Bilha pilegesh aviv va yishma Yisrael..."(and so it happened that while Israel lived in that land, that Reuben went and 'yishkav' with Bilhah his father's concubine (pilegesh) and that Israel heard of it). That’s it. Just one line.


The text then mentions what we knew already, that Yakov had twelve sons.

Question: Why does it mention that Yakov had twelve sons? Did we not already know this?

Answer: It mentions the twelve sons to show, by the omission of any differentiation, that all twelve are of equal worth and worthiness.

[Remember my comment about adding or subtracting earlier?]


Now note as a contrast how detailed the text is as it lists Esav's descendants as well as the specific Kings of Seir that followed ("and Lotan’s sister was Timna, and Timna was concubine to Elifaz, Esav's son; and she bore to Elifaz Amalek" etcetera etceterim).

Why even mention "And Lotan's sister was Timna"?

Timna was a royal princess, of whom it is said in meseches Sanhedrin (99b) that, wishing to convert, she went to Avraham, Yitzhak and Yakov. When they did not accept her, she went and became a pilegesh to Elifaz the son of Esav, saying that she would rather be a servant to Esav’s people than a lady of another nation. And as a result of the fathers rejecting her, her descendants represent the ultimate rejection of Israel, culminating in Amalek


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RABBI AKIVA = One of the greatest scholars of the Mishnaic period, teacher of thousands of students, most of whom were done in by the Romans. After that disaster, he rebuilt upon the ruins and taught even more. Eventually the Romans did him in too. A great man, a great mind, and a great optimist.

RAMBAM = Maimonides; Rabbi Moses Ben Maimon (1135 - 1204), a prolific author and scholar whose writings cover a wide variety of subjects, but who is most famous for his Halachic works, of which the Mishneh Torah is one.

RASHI = Rabbi Shlomo ben Yitzhak, a mediaeval bible commentator (1040 - 1105) from Troyes.

Monday, December 04, 2006

NOT QUITE A DAY OF RAGE: PROTEST AND COUNTER-PROTEST AT AIPAC EVENTS

SAN FRANCISCO, MID-DAY - MOSCONE CENTER SOUTH

Before actually describing today's events, let me quote from the e-mail I received regarding yesterday's action in Sacramento:
"The protests typically are only nominally about AIPAC and mostly about demonizing Israel. This was proven earlier today at the Sacramento event where protestors held viciously anti-Israel signs and yelled anti-Semitic slurs at those coming to the lunch. "

Anti-Semitic slurs. Oh my.


Which made this morning's events a mechayeh of monumental proportions, gashmius to da max.

Why?

Because the sitra achra (affectionate nickname for the sonei-Yisroel side) spent about an hour demonstrating at the wrong place. At the wrong time.

For some bizarre reason they went and rabbled rousingly over at Fifth and Mission, instead of on Howard Street between Third and Fourth. Which was slightly over two blocks away, nowhere near the entrance to the event, and out of the direct line-of-sight.

They never figured out that they were barking up the wrong tree.


The result was that our side was not outnumbered, unlike at yesterday's event in Sacramento, about which I heard from one of the participants this morning. And the attendees of the AIPAC lunch were probably not even aware that there were any haters in the vicinity, and were in any case not bothered or harassed.

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OAKLAND, EARLY EVENING - MARRIOTT ON BROADWAY

I wasn't planning to attend this evening's love-fest. But I did. And I brought someone from the office with me (and thank you, SHN, for being there).

The two camps were about evenly matched, and mingled freely to muddy each other's message.

I got into a shouting match with two people.

The first one being a belligerent Edomite who started by vociferating at me, although to be fair, he was coming down off of a hollering match with someone else, so he was already wound up. I'm sorry I called him a haramzad and a murderous harakati and a few other things - more because he probably didn't understand certain eloquent Persian terms, than out of any sense of propriety (most of that side are so staggeringly ungifted linguistically that no offense to propriety could be registered).

The second recipient of my spleen was a young lady of anti-Semitic persuasion whose convictions got my dander up - which is where my dander was already, seeing as I had just finished yelling at the party previously mentioned. She stood too close with her prop. Wrong place, right time.

Miss, if you are reading this, I apologize for calling you a severely defective human, and casting aspersions on your moral grounding and quotient of social-functionability. You are of course utterly wrong, your political ideas are reprehensible and odious in the extreme, and I furthermore question your choice of comrades (and wish a plague upon all of you), but I'm sorry that I was not entirely gentlemanly.


Other attendees

One of the other people I ended up having a very enjoyable conversation with was a delightful old-style communist, of the type one doesn't see much anymore. He was on the wrong side, of course, but as the last of the Bundists, he probably felt he was adding a tone of perspective and nuance to the other side. Preventing them from being entirely mono-dimensional, much like some of us refuse to let the hate-Israel side dominate the discourse.

There were one or two confrontations that nearly required police intervention, especially as both sides were constantly moving around to obscure each-others flags and signs. They brought their mock-up of the wall, we blocked it with our flags.

And there were also a few certifiables - one person on their side clearly ascribed to several variations of the theory that Jews control all parts of the known universe and Pluto besides, another person was convinced that the newsmedia were paid by the Israeli Propaganda Ministry (there is such a thing? - Hey guys, howzabout sending me some money too? I promise I'll spend it on cigars.).


Shaukat

One of their people (salam and howdy, ya Shaukat) wore a tee-shirt that said "I am not a terrorist" over a Palestinian flag. The last time I had seen him was in front of City Hall, when he and his friends were screaming their hero-worship of Sheikh Hassan Nasrullah (laqnatullah anhu). I had wondered what had happened to him. His buddy is the one who spent five days in jail and got three years probation for the flag-burning incident (silly boy, you shouldn't have brought along a can of gasoline - that's probably what really got you in trouble).


Gebrochts

Some of the signs on the opposite side urged a boycott of Israeli products.
I wish them well finding such things - other than certain medicines, computer parts, sequences of software programming codes, and the Israeli flags I keep in my cubicle, I'm having the darndest time finding Israeli products to DIS-boycott (or un-boycott - what is the correct verb?). Really. It's so hard to locate Israeli stuff here in the Bay Area that I'm even thinking of buying shmureh matzos this Passover, just to support the Israeli economy in my own little way, and perhaps prepare an entire year's supply of gebrochts in one fell Pesachdikke swoop.

Which if I do, I will need recipes that use gebrochts. So please, if you're reading this, send me some recipes. Give me suggestions. Do any of you have a recipe for that Sefardic cake that uses matze-meal and orange liqueur? I really would like a copy, please e-mail me at [email address subsequently deleted for anonymity - if you know me, you already have it].
A groisn dank foroys.


Hatikvah

Blowing the shofar and singing Hatikvah at the end was a nice touch. For future reference, seeing as my Hebraish is limited, and I haven't got it memorized (yet), here are the transcribed lyrics of The Hope:
Kol od baleyvav pe'nimah,
Nefesh yehudi homiyah;

Ulfa'atey mizrach kadimah,
Ayin le Tziyon tzofiya.
Od lo avda takvateinu,
Hatikvah batsh'not alpayim;
Lih'yot am chofshi b'artzeinu,
Eretz Tzion v' Yerushalayim.


Final note

Like at many of these occassions, it was truly a pleasure to see the people I know on our side. There's a certain brash cheer which permeates us, a sense of community, and a sense of shared or overlapping knowledge sets, points of reference, and ideals. So even though it may sound strange, I'm hoping that we will see each other many more times.
Forverts, und sey gazunt.

Friday, December 01, 2006

YOU MARRIED A YENTA!

Catchy title to a blog-post, isn't it?


But this isn't about my domestic situation, or even about yours - though I did warn you about that woman's relatives, didn't I? I told you the father was a con-artist and the twelve brothers were a bunch of shmendricks and thugs - especially those two juvenile delinquents, Shimmie and Levie. What else did you expect? That family is the absolute paradigm of dysfunctionality. Hah. You're probably gonna end up whacked by them, they're that unstable. You'll regret it, and your entire neighborhood will wonder what the heck possessed you.


But again, this isn't about you.

It's about them.

[Being actually a blatant theft from Dovbear's site (http://dovbear.blogspot.com/) , where a domestic quarrel cropped up in the comments. You could look here (http://dovbear.blogspot.com/2006/12/leahs-lament.html), or you could simply keep reading below.]


Leah's Lament

Dear Jewish People:Each year, at parshas v'yatze, the Jewish boys and girls all come running home with Rashi's story: "Leah cried day and night. Leah cried day and night. Boo hoo hoo."

But don't you pious people do shnayim mikra v'echad targum? And doesn't the targum (Onkelos) translate the verse about my eyes this way: "And the eyes of Leah were beautiful." Why yes, I think it does.

So why isn't this more positive view in circulation? Why am I remembered as the bible's Moaning Myrtle instead of as the chick with the drop -dead gorgeous eyes?

Also, I know you shrewd Jewish businessman prefer to think of Jacob's scheme with the sheep as the archetype example of Jewish cunning. And yes that was a pretty neat swindle. But how about my acquiring a night of hot love for the price of some lousy flowers? That doesn't impress you?


Yours Sincerely,

Leah, Wife of Jacob
Matriarch

----- comments ------




They were beautiful because she cried so as not to marry Esav. That was the beauty behind it, not that they were actually beautiful. The Pshat still stands.
JJ 12.01.06 - 10:24 am #

Does Onkeles say they were beautiful because... or just that they were beautiful?
Alex 12.01.06 - 10:29 am #

That's the Pshat in Onkeles.
JJ 12.01.06 - 10:30 am #

What are you talking about? Onkelos is a translation, not a commentary. He translates the word "raakot" as beautiful, not because he is trying to make a hermelutical point, but because he thinks that's what the word raakot means!
Alex 12.01.06 - 10:32 am #

Unqelos IS a commentary. ALL translations are commentary as well; why do you think that God never actually DOES anything in Unqelos? It's all meimra’ d-YY and miqadam YY.
Steg (dos iz nit der šteg) Homepage 12.01.06 - 11:11 am #

Rav Hirsch picks up on Onkelos's peshat and carries it even further, JJ. He says that The parallel structure of the verse requires it."Leah's eyes were x, and Rachel was beautiful in all ways." The pasuk is enumerating the girl's good looks. While Leah had beautiful eyes, Rachel was beautiful in more ways. If it is a statement as to Leah's puffy, red rimmed, crying eyes, then the parallelism is not there.
mevaseretzion Homepage 12.01.06 - 11:32 am #

Dearest Leah,You're forgetting that our husband is a Brisker Lamdan. 29:17 "The eyes of Leah were tender, Rochel was of beautiful form and of beautiful appearence.""Rakkos" isn't a word usually associated with beauty, whereas by me, the standard terms of beauty were used."
Mashmah", that the Torah is indicating a message here. But don't feel bad, dearie. Because the message is positive, that you did not wish to marry the evil Esav. Now, no doubt, that if our good friend Dovbear would've been around, he would have calmed you that Esov wasn't so evil afterall. But alas, your tears weren't in vain, as indeed you ended up marrying Yakkov before me, and you had children while I couldn't. So go tell all those bad B.T.A. Apikorsim, that they should stop mocking the prayers and tears of the Jewish people.
Yours sincerely,
Your younger sister,Rachel, Wife of JacobMatriarch
Rochel 12.01.06 - 11:41 am #

No one is mocking any tears, least of all yours, Rachel.We are just pointing out another pshat. But perhaps the person who stands behind your name only has room in their brain for one pshat, and one pshat only, and be d***ed with all the other rishonim and acharonim...Hm?
mevaseretzion Homepage 12.01.06 - 11:43 am #

Wow. The imah'ot read Dovbear.I always figured Leah for the smart one. I picture her with glasses.
Anonymous 12.01.06 - 11:44 am #

Dearest Rachel,Why do you prepetrate the lie that I spent all my time crying? You were there. You saw. You know it isn't true.Also, what's this invented nonsense about me being destined to marry Eisav? When in the Torah do you see cousins being matched up that way? It never happened, and until we met by the Jabbok river, I had never even heard of Esav, (but what a nice guy he turned out to be giving Yaakov, what Shimon Bar Yochai called a real and genuine hug.)You, Rachel, were never ever that nice to me, and all I stole from you was a guy. Yaakov, on the other hand, took his siblings birthright And Esva forgave him all the same.Let me explain why the Midrash said I was a crybaby. It is because the word rakos is weird. The Midrash doesn't like weird words, preferring a smooth and non-confusing text, so the great Rabbis of the midrash darshaned a solution. Mazal Tov. It's a nice vort but I am here today to tell you that it isn't necessary the truth, no matter what Morah Sarah taught you in pre-1A (and thank goodness to DovBear and Samsom Repahael Hirsh for setting the record straight!)
Love,
your big sister, who had SIX count 'em SIX sons.Leah, Wife of Jacob, etc.
Leah, Mother of Six Sons 12.01.06 - 11:57 am #

"They were beautiful because she cried so as not to marry Esav. That was the beauty behind it, not that they were actually beautiful. The Pshat still stands."I've heard this before, but I don't understand it. Eisav wasn't around; Yaakov was. Rivka sent Yaakov to lavan's house to find a wife, whereas Eisav had already married twice, and showed that he didn't really have a taste for righteous women. Eisav wasn't gonna marry Leah, so what was she afraid of?
Rare Find Homepage 12.01.06 - 11:57 am #

Kinderlach, kinderlach, please don’t argue. After all my grandson Yaakov had his hand full with the both of you. You should have appreciated everything he did for you. Leah my kiynd, those children should have kept you busy, why were you “going out” so much; and Dina followed in your footsteps. You see what happened. Rachel my kiynd, now you are crying for all your grandchildren who are lost on the way. Now you know what crying means. But my taireh maidela your day is coming when your dear Yosef who once saved your kinderlach from the Mitzriim will return as our long-awaited Moshiach ben Yosef and finally bring us all back to our Father Above.Listen to the wisdom of your Bubby.
Bubby,
Sarah Imeinu 12.01.06 - 12:21 pm #

>You, Rachel, were never ever that nice to me, and all I stole from you was a guy.

How ungrateful of you. Could you imagine the shame and embarresment had I not shared with you the "secret codes"? And it was I who took care of Daddy's sheep, while you stayed at home. Yes, it was I who met him at the well, and then you dare steal him from me?!?

>Yaakov, on the other hand, took his siblings birthright

That monstrous lentil fresser didn't deserve it.

>And Esva forgave him all the same.

Silly, did you see with how much Yakkov bribed his idiot brother?

>Let me explain why the Midrash said I was a crybaby. It is because the word rakos is weird. The Midrash doesn't like weird words, preferring a smooth and non-confusing text, so the great Rabbis of the midrash darshaned a solution. Mazal Tov. It's a nice vort.

Its a true one also. That's why you didn't take Daddy's sheep out. You were too embarressed to be seen like that.

>Love your big sister, who had SIX count 'em SIX sons.

Ha! They all came bowing like humble slaves to my Yosse'le.
Rochel 12.01.06 - 12:22 pm #

Of course Lei’a had glasses, her eyes were rakot!
Steg (dos iz nit der šteg) Homepage 12.01.06 - 12:27 pm #

these exchanges should really be a blog of their own. I wonder who it is whos writing these.
halfnutcase Homepage 12.01.06 - 12:34 pm #

How ungrateful of you. Could you imagine the shame and embarresment had I not shared with you the "secret codes"? And it was I who took care of Daddy's sheep, while you stayed at home. Yes, it was I who met him at the well, and then you dare steal him from me?!?
I didn't steal him from you. Daddy thought it was best for me to maary him first. And don't give me any jive about secret codes. Your friends among the Sages invented that one, too. Look at the verses. Our case is a direct parralel to how Yaakov tricked Yitzchak. There were no codes them - Yitzchak was fooled because he was blind - and there were no codes with use either (Yaakov was fooled because it was dark.)

Yaakov, on the other hand, took his siblings birthright That monstrous lentil fresser didn't deserve it.

Says you. Our sainted father-in-law seemed to think he had some good in him. And the Sages did too (at least the ones who lived before Rome did)

And Esva forgave him all the same.Silly, did you see with how much Yakkov bribed his idiot brother?

It was just a gift. Yaakov, in his later life, was such a suck-up. The man I married was a wrestler, a fighter, but after that emasculating meeting with Esav he became such a wimp. Reuven stole his concubine, Shimon and Levi over ruled his authority and attacked Shkem. Etc. Not the man I married at all.

Let me explain why the Midrash said I was a crybaby. It is because the word rakos is weird. The Midrash doesn't like weird words, preferring a smooth and non-confusing text, so the great Rabbis of the midrash darshaned a solution. Mazal Tov. It's a nice vort.

Its a true one also. That's why you didn't take Daddy's sheep out. You were too embarressed to be seen like that.

No, I stayed home because I wasn't a slut. Lavan had sons. Why didn't they take the sheep out? Why did you run to play with the shepherds? And I bet you liked it when Yaakov kissed you EVEN BEOFRE YOUR FIRST DATE. What a whore you are.

Love, your big sister, who had SIX count 'em SIX sons.

Ha! They all came bowing like humble slaves to my Yosse'le.

At least my precious sons didn't have to sit in jail, or live like a goy in Egypt.
Leah, MOTHER OF ISRAEL 12.01.06 - 12:35 pm #

rarefind:Leah was told by all that it was her lot to marry Esav. Yaakov came along much later, by then her eyes were all cried out.
JJ 12.01.06 - 12:36 pm #

Leah was told by all that it was her lot to marry Esav. Yaakov came along much later, by then her eyes were all cried out.

What does that mean, all cried out? And if I stopped crying after Esav married his second wife, why were my eyes still red? I know you 21st century Jews don't know much about science, but does that make any sense? Did you ever see eyes that were red and puffy years after the crying stopped?And besides, I didn't cry over Esav, because I had no idea the guy even existed.
Cousins don't get married off like that. It never happened anywhere else in the whole Torah (and even if this strange one of a kind deal was planned, once Esav married TWICE the deal was off!)

To sum up: My eyes were hot, not tender. And Rachel, my little whiny man-stealing sister was a whore.
Leah, MOTHER OF ISRAEL 12.01.06 - 12:41 pm #

I think that that crossed the line, seriously.
mevaseretzion Homepage 12.01.06 - 12:45 pm #

Sorry, she's the one playing with shepherds and kissing strangers, but I'm the one who "went out too much?"
Leah 12.01.06 - 12:46 pm #

The Chafetz Chayim told his students one purim, when they were getting carried away by the jokes and grommin, 'even on purim one must be careful of lashon hara'.You have to realize there is a limit to this joke, too, and not cross lines.
mevaseretzion Homepage 12.01.06 - 12:51 pm #

Rare,Don't you know that my evil BIL took a third wife at 40 years old to make believe he's a frummer? Like the closet Kofrim who go to shul friday night with a T-shirt under their Bekesheh, then they tell their wives they're going "Tzu Ah Zuchor", then they pack the shtreimel and Bekesheh in the locker room and take the D train?And what makes you think that Esov wasn't going to marry Leah? Don't you think that he would of blindly trusted Dovbear that Leah was pretty when I know the truth that she cried her eyes out?
Rochel 12.01.06 - 12:53 pm #

Thank you blessed Matriarchs...Your exchanges had me laughing so hard I could barely keep my mouth covered to avoid having to explain what was so funny to my goyishe co-workers.
Alan 12.01.06 - 12:55 pm #

>Sorry, she's the one playing with shepherds and kissing strangers,

You're just jealous cause no one wants to kiss you.

>but I'm the one who "went out too much?"

A gross understatement. It was your Dina'la who "went out" just like you and you know the rest...
Rochel 12.01.06 - 12:56 pm #

Why cant I get any love?
Zilpa 12.01.06 - 12:57 pm #

Dina, dear, I know you're upset about the way I got slandered, especially after what happened to you, but please stop writing in pretending to be me. You know I never would have called your aunt that.
Ima Leah 12.01.06 - 1:00 pm #

>I didn't steal him from you. Daddy thought it was best for me to maary him first.

I knew you had no confidence. I accuse you of stealing my boy, and you blame it on Daddy.

>And don't give me any jive about secret codes. Your friends among the Sages invented that one, too. Look at the verses. Our case is a direct parralel to how Yaakov tricked Yitzchak. There were no codes them - Yitzchak was fooled because he was blind - and there were no codes with use either (Yaakov was fooled because it was dark.)

Of course you're denying the codes. You're daddy's daughter after all.

>Says you. Our sainted father-in-law seemed to think he had some good in him. And the Sages did too (at least the ones who lived before Rome did)

Of course he had "some" good in him. Or Aunt Rivka would have never allowed him to keep his coat in her house.

>It was just a gift. Yaakov, in his later life, was such a suck-up.

A gift?!? Gosh. "Ki Hashochad Ye'aver" must really be true.

>The man I married was a wrestler, a fighter, but after that emasculating meeting with Esav he became such a wimp.

That's what happens when you start up with gods angels.

>Reuven stole his concubine,

And paid dearly for it.

>Shimon and Levi over ruled his authority and attacked Shkem. Etc. Not the man I married at all.

Shame on you. While you were blogging "Chilul Hashem!" They took revenge for your daughters sake.

>No, I stayed home because I wasn't a slut.

There you go again, insulting me as usual.

>Lavan had sons. Why didn't they take the sheep out?

'cause they were busy pirating their stolen Gods.

>Why did you run to play with the shepherds?

Those b*st*rds. They made me wait for hours to drink the sheep.

>And I bet you liked it when Yaakov kissed you EVEN BEOFRE YOUR FIRST DATE.

J-E-A-L-O-U-S.

>What a whore you are.

Rather a whore than a cheat. Right, DB fans?
Rochel 12.01.06 - 1:20 pm #

again, this exchange really deserves a blog of it's own.
halfnutcase Homepage 12.01.06 - 1:28 pm #

"Leah was told by all that it was her lot to marry Esav. Yaakov came along much later, by then her eyes were all cried out."

But no one knew of anyone. Rivka told Yaakov to to go to Lavan and find a wife. We don't hear of Lavan's daughters until Yaakov actually gets there, because they didn't know about each other. Who ever said Leah was destined to marry eisav? Or even Yaakov for that matter? She had no idea who either of them were!

And please don't try to insinuate that they were told about him... whom, exactly, told them?"

Don't you know that my evil BIL took a third wife at 40 years old to make believe he's a frummer?"

Sure... so he was married 3 times, then, not 2. And he already made believe he was "frummer" so he needn't marry Leah.
Rare Find Homepage 12.01.06 - 1:32 pm #

Don't you know that my evil BIL took a third wife at 40 years old to make believe he's a frummer?

Ha! Yaakov that our father loved me because of the food, so what does he do in the next verse? HE MAKES A STEW. What a suck up he was even then.
Esav 12.01.06 - 1:38 pm #

>At least my precious sons didn't have to sit in jail, or live like a goy in Egypt.

Silly, your boys were ready to MURDER my Yosse'le. And you should of seen how white they were when my Yosse'le was sitting on the throne and told them who he was.

>Did you ever see eyes that were red and puffy years after the crying stopped?

Take out a mirror, sister.

>And besides, I didn't cry over Esav, because I had no idea the guy even existed.

Yes you did. Don't tell me that you didn't see DB's post about the Tzaddik (Esov) who killed the Amaleki (Nimrod).

>Cousins don't get married off like that.

Zeidy Avrohom married his niece. Our schver Yitzchok married his first cousin once removed. Accordingly, us two sisters would marry our two male cousins, no?

>To sum up: My eyes were hot, not tender.

Hot tears. Yeah.

>And Rachel, my little whiny man-stealing sister was a whore.

I'll let that stand to show everyone your true colors.

>Leah, MOTHER OF ISRAEL

Just continue keeping your nose right where it is.
Rochel 12.01.06 - 1:43 pm #

my beautifull daughters-in-law, must you fight all the time? your driving my sunshine to his grave!I sent him to marry you and this is the thanks I get?
Rivkah 12.01.06 - 1:44 pm #

Zeidy Avrohom married his niece. Our schver Yitzchok married his first cousin once removed. Accordingly, us two sisters would marry our two male cousins, no?

No. Yaakov should have married his neice or his first cousin once removed. And Yishmael, and Nachor didn't marry cousins, so why would Esav?
Leah 12.01.06 - 1:46 pm #

See even our MIL says I am beautiful, and that's after SIX count em SIX sons!!!
Leah 12.01.06 - 1:47 pm #

P.S.

Also, what's this invented nonsense about me being destined to marry Eisav? When in the Torah do you see cousins being matched up that way?

To whom did you think we planned to marry Eisav off? To the girls around the corner? To the daughter of my no-good hunter brother-in-law? If only Eisav had married one of the daughters of my civilized town-dweller brother, maybe he, too, would have gone into livestock. Marrying a cousin worked out for me.
Your loving shvigger,Rivky
Rivka 12.01.06 - 1:48 pm #

>I sent him to marry you and this is the thanks I get?
You sent him to marry who?!?
Rochel 12.01.06 - 1:50 pm #

And Yishmael, and Nachor didn't marry cousins, so why would Esav?

What, do you think I would have married off my successful, handsome hunter son to an Egyptian commoner?
Hagar, Princess of Egypt 12.01.06 - 1:50 pm #

There you go again Hagar, with your haughty attitude. Who said you were a princess? You sure didn't look like a princess scrubbing my floors you arrogant bee-yatch!
Sarah 12.01.06 - 1:52 pm #

>I sent him to marry you and this is the thanks I get?

You sent him to marry who?!?

ME!!!!! ME ME ME
Leah 12.01.06 - 1:53 pm #

well, at first I thought asaiv might have benifited from sweet leah.however by the time he was about 40 i'm not exactly sure i would have entrusted him with a dog, much less my beloved neice
Rivkah 12.01.06 - 1:54 pm #

Beloved neice? You never called. You never wrote. I got zip from you at holiday time. You didn't even show up at the wedding! And now I'm "beloved?"Too little too late, sister.
Leah 12.01.06 - 1:55 pm #

And Yishmael, and Nachor didn't marry cousins, so why would Esav?

The important thing is not marrying a cousin, but rather marrying a relative. Do you think I would contaminate my gene pool with unrelated blood?
Nachor the Younger 12.01.06 - 1:55 pm #

didn't that swindler yaakov buy the bride when he baught the esav's rights?

I had to give leah to him!
lavan 12.01.06 - 1:55 pm #

>See even our MIL says I am beautiful, and that's after SIX count em SIX sons!!!

Yeah yeah, you pompous brat. If I was your MIL, I'd say the same. If you would be my MIL, I'd be long divorced.
Rochel 12.01.06 - 1:56 pm #

travel was expensive dearie, besides I can't stand my wretched brother.
Rivkah 12.01.06 - 1:58 pm #

didn't that swindler yaakov buy the bride when he baught the esav's rights?

I sold him no birthright! I distinctly heard him say "Sell me your first fruits", and when he agreed, I thought, "Sucker! I don't even own any trees!"
Eisav, Firstborn 12.01.06 - 2:02 pm #

Don't lie to the people Nachor, you were the oldest! That's how Abraham was able to marry your daughter; also stop acting so pious. You married a shiksa just the rest of them did.
Terach 12.01.06 - 2:04 pm #

I'm sorry eisavle, but you always where a little slow, to much of my father in you i guess.
Rivkah 12.01.06 - 2:05 pm #

Look at you lecturing me! Not only did you worship idols, you stole them, and then lied about it!

I never mistreated MY father that way
Esav 12.01.06 - 2:06 pm #

Don't lie to the people Nachor, you were the oldest! That's how Abraham was able to marry your daughter; also stop acting so pious.

Um... Sarah was my daughter... well, I think so, at least. Milkah definitely was mine. Two great daughters. And Lot? I... uh, don't know whom you're talking about. Gotta go.
Haran 12.01.06 - 2:09 pm #

Yeah Haran but who was their mother? A bes yaakov girl? I think not. So no one better say anything to me about my wives.
Esav 12.01.06 - 2:11 pm #

Esov, you evil BIL,

I heard first hand that you swore away your rights, and you said your gonna die anyways and what do you need it for. Don't come now missing the forest for some non-existant trees.
Rochel 12.01.06 - 2:11 pm #

I'm sorry eisavle, but you always where a little slow, to much of my father in you i guess.

Hey, don't make fun of dad like that!
Lavan 12.01.06 - 2:12 pm #

Don't you all realize *I'm* the one who started this whole marrying-in-the-family thing? No one else seemed interested in my daughters, so i ended up having to marry them off to my brothers Avram and Nahhor... Avram married Yiska (my little Princess) and Nahhor married Milka.
Haran ben Terahh Homepage 12.01.06 - 2:12 pm #

I'm sorry eisavle, but you always where a little slow, to much of my father in you i guess.

Don't you talk to me like that! I never should have let you go with that shady servant of my wandering Uncle Abe.
Besu'el 12.01.06 - 2:13 pm #

I heard first hand that you swore away your rights, and you said your gonna die anyways and what do you need it for. Don't come now missing the forest for some non-existant trees.

I distinctly heard him say "Michrah ka-yom es bikurecha li."Say, sweetheart, you've got a nice tongue there, and you're also sort of cute. Wanna go out?
Eisav 12.01.06 - 2:15 pm #

>I never mistreated MY father that way.

LIAR!!! You gobbled up the lentil soup my husband made for your father. The Chutzpa!!!
Rochel 12.01.06 - 2:15 pm #

>Say, sweetheart, you've got a nice tongue there, and you're also sort of cute. Wanna go out?

I'll bury myself in Bais Lechem before I date a vile creature like you.

Red Hairy body. Ugh. Eew.
Rochel 12.01.06 - 2:18 pm #

You gobbled up the lentil soup my husband made for your father. The Chutzpa!!!

I did him a favor. My brother the mama's boy thought that our carnivore father would be interested in a vegetarian stew. Why doesn't he just make him some nice stir-fried tofu?
Eisav 12.01.06 - 2:18 pm #

>I did him a favor. My brother the mama's boy thought that our carnivore father would be interested in a vegetarian stew. Why doesn't he just make him some nice stir-fried tofu?

See what a putz you are? You didn't even know that your Zeidy died early so he shouldn't be embarresed by your wild antics.
Rochel 12.01.06 - 2:27 pm #

ta, you do realize i still haven't forgiven you for trying to kill eliezer, keep me from my beloved yitzchak, and turn me in to an adultress?

you got what you deserved trying to poison him like you did!
Rivkah 12.01.06 - 2:28 pm #

You didn't even know that your Zeidy died early so he shouldn't be embarresed by your wild antics.

Antics? I killed Nimrod; I should have gotten a medal for that.
Eisav 12.01.06 - 2:29 pm #

you got what you deserved trying to poison him like you did!

I figured that was the only way to shut him up. I mean, we all saw over the closed-circuit camera what happened at the well. Do we really have to hear it all over again?
Besuel 12.01.06 - 2:31 pm #

heard first hand that you swore away your rights, and you said your gonna die anyways and what do you need it for

Were you even there? Go play with the sheep.
Esav 12.01.06 - 2:34 pm #

LIAR!!! You gobbled up the lentil soup my husband made for your father. The Chutzpa!!!

Who says he made it for Yitzchak? And I made a square deal, all fair, and I paid for that stew. If anyone did something wrong, it was Jacob for cheating me.
Esav 12.01.06 - 2:36 pm #

Eisav didn't kill me. More rabbinical nonsense. You Jews say the Torah is your holiest book, but you don't even pay attention to what it says! What would I, a king from BAVEL be doing in a backwater like Canaan? Puh lease.
Nimrod 12.01.06 - 2:38 pm #

Hey NO ONE TRIED to poisen ELi. That's just a story the Rabbi's made up to explain why I led the negotiations. They didn't know that the tradition in that time and place (as attested by lots of sources) is for the OLDEST BROTHER to lead bridal negotiations, so my taking charge made perfect sense for our culture.Daddy wasn't missing. He was just behaving like eveyone did in our time and place.
Lavan 12.01.06 - 2:40 pm #

CAREFUL - these are the Avos Hakedoshim and the Emahot Hakedodhotis...the chariot for the holy Shechina. They are way outside of our range, far and beyond our realm of understanding. We don't JOKE about such things.
Anonymous 12.01.06 - 2:42 pm #

Hakedoshoht
Anonymous 12.01.06 - 2:42 pm #

What would I, a king from BAVEL be doing in a backwater like Canaan? Puh lease.

Amrafel didn't see it that way when he helped me fight against my rebellious subjects. Say, you wouldn't happen to be related, would you?
Kedarla'omer 12.01.06 - 2:44 pm #

They didn't know that the tradition in that time and place (as attested by lots of sources) is for the OLDEST BROTHER to lead bridal negotiations, so my taking charge made perfect sense for our culture. Daddy wasn't missing. He was just behaving like eveyone did in our time and place.

So why did I butt in?
Mrs. Besuel 12.01.06 - 2:46 pm #

Yes, you were all marrying your cousins and nieces and - (sisters?! What's that nonsense about Jacob's sons marrying their sisters? What happened to not imitating the Egyptian practices?)Anyway, we all know what happens after too many generations of that - I'm not saying your Bais Yaakov girls are unattractive, but... shouldn't you take a clue from the fact that Moshe rabeinu, our *holiest* and *most high* prophet, chose to marry me? Think about it...
Tzipporah 12.01.06 - 2:46 pm #

We don't JOKE about such things.

That's what I said, but my sons-in-law wouldn't believe me...
Lot 12.01.06 - 2:47 pm #

So why did I butt in?

You were a libber.
besuel 12.01.06 - 2:48 pm #

We don't JOKE about such things.

Sure we do! how do you think I got my name?
Yitzchak 12.01.06 - 2:48 pm #

shouldn't you take a clue from the fact that Moshe rabeinu, our *holiest* and *most high* prophet, chose to marry me?

That wasn't so pashut either...
Miriam 12.01.06 - 2:49 pm #

Can I just point our one last time that I had SIX SONS.

SIX

Rachel had two, like the slave girls.

But I had SIX

SO JACOB HAD BETTER LOVE ME
Leah 12.01.06 - 2:49 pm #

But I had SIX
SO JACOB HAD BETTER LOVE ME

Boy, are you in for a lot of disappointment...
Penina 12.01.06 - 2:50 pm #

Leah, sweetie, having many children is no guarantee of love from your husband, as you well know. However, it does give you a lot to kvell about! (unless they turn out rotten, which can happen... oops, sorry, sore subject.)
Her Majesty Queen Victoria 12.01.06 - 2:52 pm #

Penina, our stories sure are similar.
Leah 12.01.06 - 2:55 pm #

I gave my husband Zalman Mudcha 16 fine Satmar kids, but still he spends all say in the mikva and the bes midrash and never picks up a drop around the house. Men.
Shprintza Bayel 12.01.06 - 2:56 pm #

That wasn't so pashut either...Miriam 12.01.06 - 2:49 pm # Oh I cried and cried - until I realized that NOT ONLY was this foreign woman the only one willing to bring my grandsons into the covenant, but she was encouraging him to come home and free us... and don't get me started on her tzaddikeh-father...
Yocheved 12.01.06 - 2:57 pm #

For the record, I did sexually boycott Leah, and I am sure you can see why
Yankuf 12.01.06 - 2:57 pm #

Don't sweat it. I sexually boycotted Yocheved, too,
Amram 12.01.06 - 2:58 pm #

So how come when I boycotted Tamar everyone got bent out of shape?
Onan 12.01.06 - 2:58 pm #

>Who says he made it for Yitzchak?

Get a new memory card, idiot. You stomped into your mothers house with such a huff and puff, you couldn't even talk. All you managed to blurt out was:

Gimme... that... Red... Thing....

>And I made a square deal, all fair, and I paid for that stew. If anyone did something wrong, it was Jacob for cheating me.

Ha! When it comes to you fressing, you say - "I made a square deal". And when you stand like a loser in front of your Daddy, you Cried! YES! You cried like a baby that my husband ripped you off twice.

TWICE?!? WHAT HAPPENED TO THE "SQUARE DEAL"????
Rochel 12.01.06 - 3:01 pm #

oy! this family is meshuggah!
Yosef 12.01.06 - 3:03 pm #

you liar lavan! See? this is what I have to put up with, he can't even tell the honest truth!

and again, my beloved DsIL: quit fighting!
Rivkah 12.01.06 - 3:06 pm #

Yosef sweetie, you aughtn't be talking. You are the one who decided to tell your brothers about those dreams after being told that it would be better not to.
Rivkah 12.01.06 - 3:08 pm #

oy! this family is meshuggah!

The kind of talk will get you tossed in a pit. DOn't disrespect the family.
Yehuda 12.01.06 - 3:09 pm #

Children! Please! This kind of fighting between siblings leads to no good. I should know.
Chava 12.01.06 - 3:17 pm #

Chava, if you could follow orders,mankind wouldn't be in this mess.
Hashem Elokim 12.01.06 - 3:18 pm #

ok, now, that's going too far. Everyone knows HaShem's *real* call-sign here is "DovBear."
Tzipporah 12.01.06 - 3:21 pm #

>Rachel had two, like the slave girls.

>But I had SIX

It was my son who sat on the kingly throne.

It is my grandchildren, that every father blesses his children with.

>SO JACOB HAD BETTER LOVE ME

Sure. Call 1-888-flowers. My address is Tent 1, Lovontown, Choron.
Rochel 12.01.06 - 3:23 pm #

Chava, if you could follow orders,mankind wouldn't be in this mess.

Do you really want to get into this here, in front of everybody? Because we all know nobody ever told ME about those so-called orders... I wasn't even around yet.
Chava 12.01.06 - 3:23 pm #

(sniff) I thought this thread was going to be about me. (sniff)
(SOB)
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Moaning Myrtle 12.01.06 - 3:27 pm #

Do you really want to get into this here, in front of everybody? Because we all know nobody ever told ME about those so-called orders... I wasn't even around yet.

I created you at the same time as I created Adam. Don't play that.
Hashem Elokim 12.01.06 - 3:34 pm #

um, impersonating hashem is NOT cool
halfnutcase Homepage 12.01.06 - 3:36 pm #

>um, impersonating hashem is NOT cool

Exactly. I wouldn't even accuse my sister's sons of such a thing.

Must be one of the Atheist Kofrim.....
Rochel 12.01.06 - 3:56 pm #

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Again, I stole the entire thing. Copy-pasted like it was my own flesh-and-blood.

Why?

Because some of you hardly EVER go over to Dovbear's [Dovbear's site: http://dovbear.blogspot.com/]. So I wanted to show you what you were missing.

Oh, that and I'm a shameless opportunist. It was too good to pass up on, and heck, I didn't have to do much writing myself -- no thought was required either. Which is a good thing, because I had a little too much Scotch last night.

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Counter Anti-Israel rally outside AIPAC dinner.
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the US government. In reality, AIPAC works to lobby
for pro-Israel legislation and to educate legislators
on issues related to the US-Israeli relationship.
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and their relationship protest outside the East Bay
event, often trying to harass event attendees. This
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before.
Not only that, but they are bolstered by an
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authors) controls US policy and pushes US policy away
from US interests and in favor of Israel. Despite the
obvious use of anti-Semitic accusations and the
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