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Wednesday, August 13, 2008


Yossi Izrael reacted to my two long posts about Balkan Sobranie pipe tobacco by asking "Can't you jus' write try this and this by that one?"

For reference purposes, these are the posts that caused Yossi's gekvetch:
1st. very long discussion of Balkan Sobranie:
2nd. very long discussion of Balkan Sobranie: BALKAN SOBRANIE POST #2
Link to all my Balkan Sobranie articles: BALKAN SOBRANIE POSTS - ALL

It's a valid question - especially if you are not interested in tobaccos which are no longer available.

So, in that vein, do NOT buy any of these:
[And do not bother trying to find them either. ]

Soft burleys, golden Virginias, and spicy Java tobaccos. Thin ribbon cut.
Manufactured by Van Rossem.

Somewhat broad ribbon cut Maryland.
Manufactured by Theodorus Niemeyer.

Medium ribbon cut Maryland.
Manufactured by Theodorus Niemeyer.

Ribbon cut Maryland.
Manufactured by Erven De Weduwe Van Nelle.

Ribbon cut Maryland.
Manufactured by Douwe Egberts.

Baai tabak is the generic term in Dutch for plain unsauced mostly aircured ribbon tobacco, usually Maryland, but sometimes including some flue-cured leaf. The reason for the name, 'bay tobacco', is that this was the type exported through the Chesapeake.

Such tobaccos were among the plainest and cheapest of Dutch tobaccos, and, because they were not heavily sauced, probably the cleanest smoking tobaccos available in the Netherlands. They were all relatively dry and quick-burning, in addition to being rather dull - which is probably why they are seldom found outside of the Dutch area.

Most of the old brands are no longer available in any case - the Dutch pipe smoker has grown up, and now smokes the major international brands. I do not know which of the products listed above are still around - possibly only the Vier Heeren Baai.

Years ago I smoked all of them. I do not remember them unfavourably, but have no desire to revisit them either.

NOTE: For American pipe-smokers interested in experiencing something in a similar vein, McClelland's Virginia Woods is as close as anything available here, albeit somewhat sweeter and markedly more 'herbal', due to its being a flue-cured ('Virginia') ribbon, rather than Maryland leaf.
But it takes care to enjoy - if you hotbox it, you will end up nauseous and disappointed.
Smoke slow. Always smoke slow.


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  • At 12:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    Quite the most boring post in days. Yossi will be pleased.

    ---Grant Patel

  • At 11:40 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    Yossi has not read it. Neither has Lev. You are bereft.

    ---Grant Patel

  • At 12:39 PM, Blogger Spiros said…

    Geez, Patel Sahib, stop rubbing it in. So the man produced a colossally boring post; they can't all revolve around wombats and panties. Or lesbians. Or goats. Or those who form the backobne of this great country, which I would construe to include both lesbians and wombats, but not goats. Beavers.
    Cut the man some slack, why don't ya?

  • At 11:39 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    I am hurt. My slack is hurt too.
    A wombat upon you!

    ---Grant Patel

  • At 2:32 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    Lev ahs read it. It is boring.


  • At 12:04 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    Lev misspelled. How lack a daisy cal.

    ---Grant Patel

  • At 12:29 PM, Blogger J. "יהוא בן יהושפט בן נמשי" Izrael said…

    Yossi did read this article and is very grateful.

    As a reward I'll spare you my review on the magnificent concerts I attended recently.

  • At 1:10 PM, Anonymous the dude said…

    Can you change the station? I've had a long day, and I hate the Eagles, man.

  • At 11:36 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    Get out of the peace-lovin' cab!

    ---Grant Patel

  • At 11:19 AM, Anonymous hunter thompson never said…

    Never ignore the nuts!

  • At 3:49 PM, Blogger The back of the hill said…

    Never ignore the nuts!

    Some nuts beg to be ignored. In particular, the "anonymous" nut who tried to post "payday loans peru payday loans in worcester payday loans in presque isle" through "faxless payday loans in colorado no faxing payday loans in east quogue"

    Other than zapping his contribution, and snarkily indicating same here, I shall 'ignore' him.

  • At 2:57 PM, Blogger The back of the hill said…

    More about Baai Tabak / Bay Tobacco, particularly Frisian Bay Tobacco and Gentlemen's Bay Tobacco ('Friesche Heeren Baai') in this post:

    Mention is made of Taconis in Leeuwarden, and there is reference to Van Nelle, Douwe Egberts, Niemeijer, plus some companies that disappeared several decades ago.


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