Wednesday, January 16, 2008

ABOUT LANGUAGE, WEXLER, AND HODGE-PODGE SCHOLARSHIP

A correspondent brings two writings to my attention, both of which have titles and content which must be considered disturbing, at the very least.


The Ashkenazic Jews: A Slavo-Turkic People in Search of a Jewish Identity
By Paul Wexler

The Non-Jewish Origins of the Sephardic Jews
By Paul Wexler

[Paul Wexler is a professor of linguistics at Tel-Aviv University. Using linguistic analysis he makes the argument in the first book that Ashkenazim are of non-Jewish origin, in the second, and by the same method, that Sephardim are the descendants of Berbers converted to Judaism. This per internet mentions of these books.]

Do any of my readers know about these books? Have you read them? What do others say about these books and their author?

I would really appreciate your feedback.

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I myself have not read either book. And, in that I ab initio take issue with both their contentions, and the ideology which would support them and be supported by them, it is incredibly unlikely that I would spend any money on either of these 'scholarly tomes'.
[I do not wish to enrich Paul Wexler.]

I doubt, I sincerely and thoroughly doubt, that the language one speaks must provide evidence of one's origin.
Consider the millions of Americans who by that evidence would be judged the descendants of Angles, Saxons, and Jutes. Or the hundreds of thousands of lawyers who then are clearly the distant relatives of Norman rapists and mediaeval French clerics. And the numerous groups all over Europe who, despite the names of their towns and provinces, are not Flemish, not Italian, not German, but French, Greek, and Slav.

To say nothing of the large number of pure Chinese and pure Polynesian (Melanesian) people in parts of Asia and the South Pacific who, evidently, are naught but Indonesians of odd appearance.

Among others. Among several many others.


I myself am of praedominantly Dutch ancestry, mixed with English and Scots-Irish.
I defy anyone to find conclusive proof of that in the language I use on this blog, or in my daily speech. Nor will they find any linguistic trace of the American Indian hidden deep in the family woodpile (who, I assume and hope, at least decently learned the New Jersey Dutch spoken by their glow-in-the-dark significant other). To say nothing of the Czechs and Slavs in one of the family pneumatophores.

Savage Kitten, as readers of this blog may have figured out, is of Cantonese extraction. There is not a trace of the proto-Thai some of her ancestors spoke a millennium ago in the American English she speaks and writes.
[Note: the Cantonese are considered to be in a significant part descendants of non-Chinese who were Sinified/Sinicized during the T'ang and Sung periods.]

In fact, judging by some terms which crop up in her daily speech, she is a former resident of Amsterdam pining keenly for the raw herring available at Van Altena's fishstand outside the Rijks Museum, whereas I am obviously an Indonesian Jew, and several of my friends are members of Monty Python's Flying Circus, or refugees from a Coen Brothers movie.

Please comment liberally.
Thank you.

11 comments:

Phillip Minden said...

I read some of his books some years ago, and his hypotheses aren't tenable. I don't know if there's any agenda behind them such as undercutting Israeli legitimacy to the country or establishing a non-ghetto identity or something. Maybe it's just an idea that fascinates him.

In short, the idea is:

A. Yiddish is really Sorbian, just the vocabulary was replaced with mostly German words. Proof: The word nebbich, which is of very unclear origin but might be Slavic (according mainly to scholars who don't have any first-hand knowledge of Slavic linguistics). Nebbich.

B. That can only mean that Ashkenazic Jews are really Slavs talked into Judaism by one or two Middle Eastern travelers.

Anonymous said...

Ok I'd never heard of him before today

http://www.israel-academia-monitor.com/index.php?type=large_advic&advice_id=240&page_data%5Bid%5D=174&cookie_lang=en&the_session_id=55d1f1fd9490989a8f6fc5757f09164e&PHPSESSID=223c395c19d6c97b845804184f91dc08

nuff said again?

e-kvetcher said...

Lipman, what is his standing in the field of linguistics? Is he considered a kook? TA university is not a community college, and he is a Professor Emeritus there.

I don't really want to bring his politics into the discussion, unless there is consensus that academically and linguistically his scholarship is shoddy. I mean Chomsky is a kook when it comes to politics but he was a tremendous figure in his field.

Phillip Minden said...

Graham,

wow. I had no idea about this, but it matches my blind guess. Still, it doesn't necessarily mean he's intellectually dishonest, falsifying scholarship to influence politics. He might believe his unconvincing linguistics because he unconsciously wants it to be true.

e-kvetcher,

as far as I know, he's perfectly accepted as a Slavist, as long as it's not about "Judeo-Slavic" matters. Historical White Russian stuff and the like - no problem. I'm not sure what he taught in everyday university life in TA, in other words, if he occupied himself exclusively with the non-mainstream areas during the last decades.

Not that it's not interesting; it's a nice thought experiment, on the verge of what-if history.

Phillip Minden said...

Oh, and about Chomsky. Years ago, I as a European didn't have a clue about his political activities. Imagine my amazement when an American student I met said she was "a fan of Noam Chomsky". She didn't seem particularly bright (not a character trait), and she was a literature rather than linguistics major, so I couldn't believe she was so much into hardcore generative grammar.


Interesting parallel (not only because I'm sceptic about generative grammar :-) ). Seems the fiercest critics of Israel are often those who in their younger years immigrated without need like Wexler from the US, or who called their daughter Aviva like Chomsky. Disappointed idealist delusion? Anyway, tragically they mean well but easily cause evil.

e-kvetcher said...

Lipman,

I guess it seems strange that someone who was a respected linguist in a certain area would come up with a completely wild linguistic theory in another area. I mean its not like a guy like Fomenko who is a respected mathematician, and comes up with a wild historical theory. You could argue history is not his area of expertise. But a linguist?

By the way, are you a professional linguist, or something related? And where are you from in Europe? For some reason I figured you are American.

Phillip Minden said...

It's very rare for a mentally healthy person to be very good in one academic field, and spread bullshit in another. Critical thinking tends to be either there or not. (That's not even a matter of IQs, BTW.)

But there are factors that can impair this ability, such as political wishes, prejudices and the like, and then it depends on just how much a presumed fact is common knowledge.

A common combination is misinformation about Israel through otherwise reliable media, paired with a bad conscience because he or daddy killed people in Vietnam, or in the case of Jews, because he or daddy wasn't killed by the Germans. I see that with an uncle of mine, a brilliant scholar in his field, who gets completely irrational when he talks about Palestinians - loud, doesn't listen, doesn't answer non-provocative questions. And I'm not even a Zionist.

Anonymous said...

Interestingly enough it has been posited that the Berbers had a Jewish origin. Strange racialist theories about Jews are usually the province of those that would seek to deny the historic connection between modern Jews and ancient Hebrews and thus to the land of Israel.

His thesis is destroyed however (and as per previous discussions), just how much of Yiddish has roots in Old French rather than Hebrew. And not to mention recent genetic studies.

R

Anonymous said...

This cuts me out anyhow - as my ancestal sperm was wearing kilts - if not of tartan, long before any Roman ever heard of Masada.

http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9B0CE6DF133DF934A1575AC0A9659C8B63

Grm

e-kvetcher said...

thanks, graham - very interesting article!

What are the odds that it would get published at the same time that we start talking about Paul Wexler's book? Weird.

Anonymous said...

Nebbech.

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