Thursday, April 27, 2006

FOR CRAPS SAKE!

Dovbear has a posting which is very interesting (link here: http://dovbear.blogspot.com/2006/04/new-threat.html).

I reproduce the entire post below:

Matthias Goering, a grand-nephew of the notorious Nazi, is continuing his ancestor's work. Under the cover of conversion to Judaism, the young Goering is actively working to recruit Jews to Christianity.

And he is not alone.

We tear our shirts over the high assimilationist rates in this country. The American holocaust it's called. And, the knee-jerk reaction is to blame it all on the forces of secularism. There's some truth to that, I suppose, but secularism doesn't pursue converts. Unlike the Christians, secularism doesn't have a plan. It merely creates an environment where planning is possible. For all the breast-beating about secularism, not nearly enough is said about people who organize concerted efforts to convert Jews. Instead of fingering the real threat, we blame secularism, and speak carelessly and incorrectly about how those Christians who scheme for our souls are "true and reliable friends."


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So far Dovbear. Now onward.

Regarding Matthias Goering, I have lifted an entire passage from the website to which Dov provided the clickable link (http://www.tikkunministries.org/newsletters/RI-news-feb06.htm):

"Last week we were blessed to have a visit by Matthias Goering. He came to faith in Yeshua 5 years ago. Soon afterward God began to speak to him about Israel and the Jewish people. In a vision God called him to be a watchman on the walls of Jerusalem. Matthias told God, "This cannot be. You know my last name. You have the wrong man." But God told him, "I have chosen you to be a bridge between me and my people." Matthias has visited Israel several times since then, and he feels at home here. This in itself is amazing, because since his early childhood he was raised to hate Jewish people. Matthias is the great nephew of Herman Goering the number 2 leader in Hitler's government, and commander of his Luftwaffe forces (air force). "

Blogeditorial comment: I must confess that I think it the height of arrogance and egomania to assume that the voice inside your head is the Almighty. Is it not much more reasonable to check yourself into a clinic, or have a praescription written, or get help?

Still, while this shows an upsetting Messianic (or at least "chosen") tendency for Matthias, I suppose it IS less harmful than running for President of the United States, or ordering followers to pote cyanide-laced kool-aid. Perhaps. The point is debatable.


Further:
"Matthias is a physiotherapist. One of his clients is also one of our most devoted Swiss volunteers. When this sister discovered that Matthias was a believer and a lover of Israel she introduced Matthias to Asher. This relationship is indicative of the ministry of reconciliation between German Christians and many Israeli Messianic groups including Revive Israel. Matthias thought his calling was too heavy, but God called him to simply obey and show up at the places where Israelis are. He has been stunned at the potential for reconciliation with Israelis. However there is a catch; many Israeli's say, "We won't forget and we won't forgive." This trap prevents many Israelis from receiving God's full forgiveness because they are not willing to fully forgive. "

Blogeditorial comment: Oh cheeses! More arrogance! And this time coupled with a tendency to bother strangers.

Plus a wonderful new twist on the classic accusation that the Jewish refusal to accept Christ is due to some perverse flaw on their part.

This new twist clicks onto the 'forgiveness receptor' in the subconscious of many Christians - forgiveness is one of those things that Christians claim especial credit for, and Shylock was not forgiving, was he?

The obscenity in this statement is the suggestion that Jews should forget and forgive, and that not doing so is what makes them damnable. It is doubly obscene because many Europeans blame Jewish vindictiveness over WWII for the ongoing tumult in the Middle East. It is triply obscene because it is a German making the statement.

As any European who can ignore his or her own apologesis and conceits should readily recognize.


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I find the whole concept of trying to convert Jews to Christianity repulsive. Much more so than the proselytizing among the general (and therefore mostly Christian or ex-Christian) populace, although there is also something slimy about Jayzits-thumpers poaching from each-other's flock.

There is something stalkerish and opportunistic about missionaries.

Tikkun Ministries, the organization in which Matthias Goering is active, is of course a Messianic group. Most of such groups have de-stressed the term "Jews for Jezus" because of the distaste that term engenders - and perhaps because there are hardly any members of Jewish origin, and none who are actually Jewish.


The compulsion to convert Jews is based in the idea that Jewish refusal to accept Christian nonsense is somehow more depraved than the innocent scepticism of the heathen, and the self-serving conviction that these Jayzits-whacker latecomers to the salvation racket have a holy task given to them, and dammit those Jews should just stop being so contrary!


There is a lot more to it than that, of course, but most of it is quite as repellant, and more than mildly similar to a snotty child's absorption with his own penis.

It's all about them and their collective naughty bits.

I rather wish that the Goyim would not be so fascinated by the Jews, and stop obsessing about them. It leads to weird behaviour.

[Yes, yes, I know. But doesn't that actually totally prove what I just said?]


The Jews who get caught up in the nets these Jayzits-trolls fling out are often the ones who know Jack-diddly about Judaism and zip-diddly about Christianity (which explains why they fit right in with the sect's other dunces).

Of course, roping in the ignorant is a traditional part of the Christian missionary endeavor.

Which is probably why there are so many Christians.

The problem is that even after many centuries, many still know little, and many still act like starry-eyed converts.


I do not like converts.
Generally speaking.



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Lipman wrote the following comment underneath Dov's post:
"I can't see a continuity here. Much more so with the larger number of meshuggene Germans who've been converting (?) to Judaism since the 70s and are now hardline kill-the-Arabs settlers.


Must be great: You convert to the victims, and can still take up grandpa's traditions."


From a similar inability to distance myself from the Dutch, I have obsessively delved into Indonesian history and languages, and know far too much about Dutch colonial excesses. And headhunting, tribal cloth patterns, spicy food, etcetera.

But it is better to be on the outside looking in. Being too much inside sabotages perspective. A conversion might only make such myopia worse.

I did not know that there were that many German converts.

That there are is less surprising than disturbing.
It oddly echoes of the Christian belief that Christians are the new Israel.
Maybe it is also a denial of dysfunctionality, or an attempt to escape it.

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