Tuesday, November 24, 2015

TURKISH DICTATOR TRIES TO START A WAR

Rinky-tink tinpot tyrannies such as the regime in Ankara have no business playing with heavy weapons. Erdogan, whose government enabled the Jihadis in Syria, shot down a Russian plane bombing the Syrian rebels this morning. It crashed in Syrian territory over forty kilometer from the Turkish border, and the two crew members who ejected were shot dead as they descended by the Turkmen militia in Syria. The Turkmen militia were created, trained, and funded by Erdogan's government.

Like many other Jihadis in Syria.

Nato rules state that when a member is attacked, it can rely on the other members to come to its aid. Nato rules say nothing about a member-state attacking someone else.
Erdogan is keen on regime-change in Syria, which is why the Turkish border has been more porous than a sieve for over three years, as both men and materiel crossed over. Turkey has also benefited enormously from Saudi and Qatari aid to the rebels, who are scarce more than representatives of the vicious tendencies of Wahabism.

The Western World would do well by encouraging Russia to clobber Turkey, an alleged ally which has burned everyone for over a decade. We share no common values with them and should never forget that the Turkish tribes are interlopers who destroyed civilizations in their bloody conquests.
Ideally, the emasculated survivors would stumble back to the wastelands from whence they came.

[Thankfully the Chinese know how to deal with nasty Turkic types; flamethrowers and live ammo. Bugger the Uighurs; they too are invasive barbarians.]


At the very least, we need regime-change in Ankara.
Erdogan has never played by honest rules.
Neither have his party.


Fortunately there are no Turkish Consular offices anywhere in the Bay Area or Northern California -- Turkey is represented in Boston, Chicago, Houston, Los Angeles, and New York -- so attempting to burn their flag during a rainy day in San Francisco will not be necessary.
But please feel free to piss on it.
Or wipe up dog shit.


No, I'm certainly not a supporter of Putin. The folks in the Kremlin are meddlesome psychopaths, and bluster too much.
But the Russians are civilized.
Unlike Turks.




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14 comments:

Anonymous said...

What the damned Turks should understand is that by shooting down a Russian jet for their Turkmen proxies, they have condemned the Turkmen to annihilation.

Do not be surprised if the Russians bomb the fuck out of the Turkmen.

Anonymous said...

You seem somewhat confused about the Russians. Remember, they were the folks who shot down a plane filled with Dutchmen?

Let me remind you: Igor.

e-kvetcher said...

BOTH, you remind me of the Good Soldier Svejk:

‘At Sarajevo,’ Bretschneider resumed, ‘it was the Serbs who did it.’

‘You’re wrong there,’ replied Švejk. ‘It was the Turks, because of Bosnia and Herzegovina.’ And Švejk expounded his views on Austrian foreign policy in the Balkans. In 1912 the Turks lost the war with Serbia, Bulgaria and Greece. They had wanted Austria to help them, and when this didn’t happen, they shot Ferdinand.

‘Do you like the Turks?’ said Švejk, turning to Palivec. ‘Do you like those heathen dogs? You don’t, do you?’

e-kvetcher said...

Švejk took a deep draught of beer and continued:

‘Do you really think His Imperial Majesty is going to put up with this sort of thing? If so, you don’t know him at all. There’ll have to be a war with the Turks. “You killed my uncle and so I’ll bash your jaw.” War is certain. Serbia and Russia will help us in it. There won’t half be a blood bath.’

Švejk looked beautiful in this prophetic moment. His simple face, smiling like a full moon, beamed with enthusiasm. Everything was so clear to him.

‘It may be,’ he said, continuing his account of Austria’s future, ‘that if we have war with the Turks the Germans’ll attack us, because the Germans and the Turks stick together. You can’t find bigger bastards anywhere. But we can ally ourselves with France which has had a down on Germany ever since 1871. And then the balloon’ll go up. There’ll be war. I won’t say any more.’

The back of the hill said...

Good lord, it's forty years since I read that!

Cocaine Bob said...

What makes you think that the Russians are more civilized than the Turks? Or that the Turks or less civilized than the Russians?

The back of the hill said...

Purely a value judgement.

Cocaine Bob said...

But what about Turkish cigarettes, huh?

e-kvetcher said...

>Good lord, it's forty years since I read that!
You should pick it up again - it's still fantastic...

Russians!

The back of the hill said...

But what about Turkish cigarettes, huh?

Good point, excellent smoke, but not a sign of civilization. Along with the Imperial Russians (papirosi with an extra long tube, dark fragrant tobacco), these were made by Sobranie. Imperial Russians ceased to exist in 1981. I think the Sobranie Turkish non-filters (ten to a tin) disappeared at the same time.

The back of the hill said...

You should pick it up again - it's still fantastic...

I think I will. Much that I read as a teenager needs to be reread at this point. Not because I'm an old codger who needs to refresh his failing memory, but because I am quite different now than I was then; I'll find things I didn't see before.

Thanks for the recommendation.

Anonymous said...

What an extraordinarily crabbed and mean missive.

I came to the blog because I enjoyed your commentary about tobacco. I leave because I don't know what to make of someone who wishes fire, mayhem, and death upon others. If it was intended as humourous misanthropy, then your sense of humour is too refined far me.

We humans are a strange lot...

The back of the hill said...

Kindness extends most to people (individuals) who are close, least to nations which (as nations, and as amorphous mobs) tend to hate us.

Insofar as I care about either Turks or Russians, I care only a little. Less about the Turks.

As allies, the Turks are unreliable, and at times treacherous.

Ed Laurens said...

Surely you remember Khedive zigaretten?
They were gorgeous

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