Here's a recording of Mar Gavriel's tune for Pe-ullôs Eil
http://lipmans.blogspot.com/2005/11/world-premiere.html
The voice is Lipman .
The tune reminds me of something, something, something.....
I've heard a very similar melody before, actually a number of similar melodies, but they're not on the ceedees I regularly play (Cajun waltzes, and lately Trafasi and Max Nijman).
Mar Gavriel's fascinating blog is here:
http://margavriel.blogspot.com/
Lipman's blog is here:
http://lipmans.blogspot.com/
(Wa'l chanukat el blawgeikum mubarak, ya sidi!)
There are, as far as I can tell, only three entries sofar on Lipman's blog - the very first is another melody:
http://lipmans.blogspot.com/2005/10/yk-kaddesh.html
http://www.geocities.com/shtegosaurus/Kaddish-YK.mp3
Do please visit lipmans' blog. It is worth your while.
As indeed also are MarGavriel and Steg (dos iz nit der šteg) (http://boroparkpyro.blogspot.com/)
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11/16/05: Editorial note: Link changed from MP3 to the posting on Lipman's blog, where there is a clickable link to the sound.
[And, in mittn drinnen, there are NEW posts on the blogs of Mar Gabriel and Steg.]
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Thanks for your nice words!
(Wa'l chanukat el blawgeikum mubarak, ya sidi!)
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I've heard a very similar melody before
I find it very original in spite of its simplicity and clarity. You could be thinking of other tunes that play around keynote, subdominant and third, like the well known Shir hamaales tune. (Funny that the most popular tune for a kabbalistic innovation is South German.) Or a very nice Mo oshiv tune I gauge to be 150 years old. Or some shlus kaddesh.
Would you mind changing the link from the direct mp3 link to my or MG's post?
Thanks for your nice words!
Ditto.
By the way, why do you (Both B.O.T.H.) oscillate between "Mar Gabriel" and "Mar Gavriel"?
The most popular Shir Hama‘alos tune in America, they say, is Yossele Rosenblatt.
Except that Yossele (זצ"ל) didn't actually write that tune. I believe that it is by Pinchos Minkowsky.
Let's move this conversation over to Lipman's blog (with a twin thread on mine). Do I have your permission (Lipman, Steg, B.O.T.H.*), to copy your comments into the comment-thread over there?
*What would I copy from B.O.T.H.? The following sentences:
The tune reminds me of something, something, something.....
I've heard a very similar melody before, actually a number of similar melodies, but they're not on the ceedees I regularly play (Cajun waltzes, and lately Trafasi and Max Nijman).
Do I have your permission, B.O.T.H.?)
"Do I have your permission (Lipman, Steg, B.O.T.H.*), to copy your comments into the comment-thread over there?"
Of course you may!
In answer to question regarding dichotomous pronunciation 'Gavriel' and 'Gabriel', hmmm, I guess it reflects speech habits. If there were an m between the 'a' and the 'b', I would always give the 'b' a 'b' sound. But immediately following an 'a', somehow a 'v' seems an easier pronunciation.
Note that sometimes it seems best to orthographize the name as 'Gabriyel' or 'Gavriyel' (that last one looks wrong, though).
permission
Go ahead.
The most popular Shir Hama‘alos tune in America, they say, is Yossele Rosenblatt.
Hard to say. If not, it comes a close second.
BOTH - could you change the link, which circumvents the blog?
Tayere Lipman,
Have changed the link - please check, and let me know if this is the correct one.
Regards,
Sure, thanks!
Back of the hill is an absolute heretic and nobody should read his writings.
Anybody that reads this will be reading apikorsish garbage.
This is BITTUL TORAH.
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